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Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

jmhallbe — GMT

I have been playing for around 3 years now, but only started uploading my scores in the last year or so. I got really excited to see I was in the top 100 today for the first time ever, so I came to the forums today for the first time too. I was really disappointed when I saw all the accusations of cheating. My easy top scores are :51-1:01. I rarely ever play on medium so those scores are 1:24-15:00. I didn't even know there was a way to cheat. Why do so many people seem to think the top scores are full of cheaters?

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

ElricE — GMT

Because if someone (well, multiple someones if you regularly check the boards) can supposedly complete the extreme level in under a minute and a half (regularly) something is off. I screenshotted and paused an "extreme" level game (one where there was a high percentage of squares pre-filled) and ran through an online solver on the desktop so I had the solution right in front of me.

Now with the solution right in front of me I could barely fill out all the vacant squares fast enough to break the one and half minute mark (1:29) and yet there were about eight scores below the two minute mark (fastest was 1:06). Now given there are several players consistently/repeatedly scoring extremely low times that are defying what most could even blindly type in (ie, not even allowing any time for mental calculations)... we all have those greased lightening moments but almost daily?? The likelihood that a bunch of savants are consistently pegging the boards is statistically so low as to be damned near impossible.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

alia — GMT

If they happy and self content then let it be.
As long as you are well happy with your achieved score then forget whom they before you that cheated you of it.

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

lucek — GMT

I agree with ElricE. my fastest easy with in game higligting and croschair was 58, and it was a good hand. So when i see someone do it in 21- 40 seconds is obvious that they cheating. it`s imposible for normal human being to do it so fast!

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

Samson — GMT

Cuz haters hate, thats why.

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

Zing — GMT

Cause "Nobody can do it faster than ME!" Seriously, the only way to resolve the issue would be to disqualify all paused games.

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

MrMeinHerr — GMT

[quote=Zing]Cause "Nobody can do it faster than ME!" Seriously, the only way to resolve the issue would be to disqualify all paused games.[/quote]

Another solution would be simply not to have any pausing of the clock. Once a puzzle is displayed, the clock is running... period. Some persons might still cheat by using tools to solve the puzzles, but at least it would reduce the absurdly fast times. I've never tried it, but I feel pretty confident that even if I had a solved puzzle in front of me, i couldn't even enter the numbers into the boxes fast enough on my phone's app to finish one in less than 30 seconds. Congrats to those who can, but... what's the point? Maybe it's only me, but I solve Sudoku puzzles for the fun and challenge. I suppose that might be the reason others do what they do; the fun and challenge of posting the shortest times possible by any means they can contrive. It can't be about solving the puzzle.

Anyway, I think a non-pausing clock would be a remedy.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

myself — GMT

It is cheating plain and simple. Jester3397 has a time of 53 seconds on both extreme and competition extreme.How is that possible?

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

Fudge — GMT

Because, you cannot complete puzzles in that time without cheating, period. If you are on here with a 22 second extreme, or some other impossible time and you're not, feel free to post a YouTube of you solving it. Until then, cry because everyone is on to you.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

jco1986 — GMT

I consistently submit scores that many of you would think I cheated to get, but I solve the puzzles in the only way sudoku puzzles should be solved. I tried the whole screenshot, solve, fill in, blah blah, and guess what? That puzzle didn't even make my top 10 in extreme. I'm not saying people don't cheat because I have no idea, but I am saying that the puzzles can be solved faster than you can type in a solution from a pre-solved reference.

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

MrMeinHerr — GMT

I choose simply to change my thinking. In my opinion, there is no "cheating." Now, it may be true we are not all playing the same game in that I am measuring my time solving the puzzle in the UI using my brain and manual dexterity. Others may choose to play differently. If their goal is to post the fastest time they can using any means possible, then that could be a different game altogether. I don't know what methods could be used, but I suppose pausing the game and solving it using other methods could be used. Perhaps there are other methods of entering the solution that are very fast. There might even be folks who have the skills to (probably illegally) hack the server and upload anything they want without even solving a puzzle at all. Whatever. Some folks might be playing the game of "do whatever I can to get a really short time" which is not the game I play. *shrug* It's all good.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

M.Frei — GMT

The programmer should prevent cheating. In this gane it is possible to solve the gane with two devices with the same account. With the first device you can try to solve it until the last digit, but without finishing it, that means it stays 'unsolved'. By this way you have endless time.
With the second device you can start the competition again and enter the solution completely between 20 seconds.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

chandrahasp@gmail.com — GMT

[quote=myself]It is cheating plain and simple. Jester3397 has a time of 53 seconds on both extreme and competition extreme.How is that possible?[/quote] Tryue... Punching Numbers manually with MIND SHUT DOWN will also need more than 1 minute...

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

myself — GMT

alexcalaunanjr
easy 4 seconds
medium 5 seconds
hard 0 seconds
yeah no cheating here.

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

LillyH — GMT

Because the world record for an EASY sudoku is 1:38, and people here are solving them in 17 seconds, it’s clearly cheating.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

tomvyn — GMT

[quote=ElricE]Because if someone (well, multiple someones if you regularly check the boards) can supposedly complete the extreme level in under a minute and a half (regularly) something is off. I screenshotted and paused an "extreme" level game (one where there was a high percentage of squares pre-filled) and ran through an online solver on the desktop so I had the solution right in front of me.

Now with the solution right in front of me I could barely fill out all the vacant squares fast enough to break the one and half minute mark (1:29) and yet there were about eight scores below the two minute mark (fastest was 1:06). Now given there are several players consistently/repeatedly scoring extremely low times that are defying what most could even blindly type in (ie, not even allowing any time for mental calculations)... we all have those greased lightening moments but almost daily?? The likelihood that a bunch of savants are consistently pegging the boards is statistically so low as to be damned near impossible. [/quote]

well, I don't cheat, and I can finish Extreme somewhere around 1:30-40 pretty much at least once a day.. best times under 1:20..
I can't imagine to do it in 0:30 as some times are..

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

Forgiven — GMT

Maybe some people are cheating, but honestly I think most people accusing others of cheating just have a hard time accepting that someone else is that good. But some people are that good. I don't have any mind-blowing records, but I just started doing extreme puzzles after feeling like I had pretty much mastered the hard level. Within a few weeks, I've gone from 6-8 minutes per puzzle to 3-4, with a record of 2:15 (just hit it today, with a previous record of 2:30). I don't see myself as a remarkable person, so someone who is really smart and adept at Sudoku could reasonably get <1 minute records after some time. It's a matter of figuring out the puzzle pattern and improving your mental flexibility to see the patterns faster and faster every game.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

burakkortes — GMT

Cuz haters hate, thats why.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

FrankyMoon — GMT

There is cheating going on. Just look at the extreme times. There's someone that finished theirs in 16 seconds. Unless they are the flash that's physically impossible.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

maddie — GMT

People cheat, one way or another. Either they are bored with something or find the idea exciting.

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

junzhe.theron@owee.org — GMT

Because it happens in all games, without exception. If someone plays better than you, then he uses cheats, and if worse, it means noob.

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sfwpexperts — GMT

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myself — GMT

sudokar
easy 0 seconds
medium 0 seconds
hard 0 seconds
extreme 0 seconds
either this guy is the flash or he is cheating

Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

katingram999@gmail.com — GMT

You know, since there's no prizes given for the competitions and nothing earned other than bragging rights by playing *any* board this game offers, why does it even MATTER if someone 'cheats'?? Who *cares*?

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

Mykee — GMT

My opion on the problem of cheating is clock never stops! Just like a real competition. You run a race, no stopping to rest in the middle. And it not count.

Re:Why are there so many accusations of cheating?

colossalko — GMT

In my opinon, it's ignorance. My top times are:
easy 38s
medium 55s
hard (1:22) 82s
extreme (1:40) 100s

All these times except medium came within the last month. Not to mention my next top 6 times in medium (from 61-68s) also happened in the last month. These pbs when compared to the usual daily pbs would rank around 10-15 for the app. As of now, easy-hard would be top 8 and extreme would be ranked 16. I see some of the names above me constantly. Names such as Chiraag, phrisbee, AaronL. I doubt they cheat. They just play several hours daily.

It all comes down to set up and strategy. If you do digit first entry (which is where you tap the number first and then every square you tap fills as that number), and solve numbers one at a time, I'm positive you can comfortably get under a minute once you get in the zone. Another strategy that I've recently used (which I believe I pbed in hard and extreme) is to hide the clock. my easy pb could've been 5 seconds better if I hadn't seen the clock and choked when I realized how fast it was.

I've had this app for over 12 years. Playing on and off, mostly off. There have been chunks where I played a few hours per day and got significantly better. Even now, I mostly play on days that I have to travel or have free time.