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Cheating says a lot about one's character and cheating on something as insignificant as a game indicates a big flaw in one's character. Of course my words will have no affect on those who choose to cheat - why would they since they have no conscious - I felt it needed to be said.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/561.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/561.page GMT
Well, I'm none to impressive, but if you want at least legitimate person to compare to Pmac:

My fastest times are:

Easy 2:08
Medium 5:14
Hard 8:46
Extreme 15:59

I'll update it as my fastest times get better. ]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/564.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/564.page GMT Easy 05:25
Medium 07:33
Hard 09:30
Extreme 10:09]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/812.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/812.page GMT I am at 5:27 on easy and 8:14 on extreme. Trying to.break the 8:00 barrier om extreme.
My.top.10 average om exterme.is.around 9:20]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/815.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/815.page GMT It's just a game - but still.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/823.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/823.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/824.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/824.page GMT
Trying it this way I have easily halved my own times and will get better too I am certain.

]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/825.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/825.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/826.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/826.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/828.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/828.page GMT Easy -> 01:16
Medium -> 02:09
Hard -> 04:17]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/831.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/831.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/838.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/838.page GMT
When I first started playing I couldn't even finish the extreme puzzles most of the time and practice has definitely paid off! Learning to use digit first has more than halved my time!

My real times are:
Easy 2:20
Medium 3:44
Hard 4:21
Extreme 5:17

Good luck everyone!]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/856.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/856.page GMT Easy 1:29- 1:54
Medium 1:54- 2:14
Hard 3:33- 4:29
Extreme 8:47-12:23]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/885.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/885.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/887.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/887.page GMT
1. It is possible to cheat on this game. It is still possible to cheat even if pausing were not allowed. (Please stop suggesting this.) I'm not going to post directions on how to cheat.

2. There are some really fast Sudoku players that play using the Genina app, and they post times to the boards here. A time of sub-30 is very possible to achieve if you have good Sudoku solving skill, great finger dexterity, and a phone/tablet/device with a good touch interface. My best times in Easy are just over 40 seconds, and I'm a bumbling oaf (who happens to spend a lot of time playing this game).

3. There are enough people playing and submitting scores on a daily basis to ensure that the top 100 times are all excellent times.

4. I checked the top-100 times for all difficulties this morning, and there are no times posted that would require cheating. (Note: I did not say that none of the times posted were the result of cheating, rather that the times are all in line with what can be achieved without cheating.)]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/928.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/928.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/933.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/933.page GMT
easy- 1:42
medium- 3:25
hard- 4:10
extreme- 4:25

I primarily play extreme.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/942.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/942.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/943.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/943.page GMT
top times:
Easy: 1:07
Medium: 1:55
Hard: 2:58
Extreme: 3:28

i use Cell first. ]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/944.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/944.page GMT
Why use pencil when you can simply put down answer right away?
Easy should be easy enough so that one does not have to use pencil marker for most cases.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/945.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/945.page GMT
My Top Times:
Easy 01:31-02:38
Medium 03:07-05:44
Hard 03:53-13:01
Extreme 04:33-07:48]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/949.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/949.page GMT
It is because when you have enough experience you don't use pencil marks on easy puzzles. There are even hard puzzles I've solved without pencil marks(no extreme ones yet) because you can tell where stuff goes. For non electronic games I do the whole thing without pencil markers, because hand written it takes longer to actually write them and erase them all correctly than to just logic it out.

Some basic concepts, if you have a number in 2 of the 3 columns of a box, and 2 of the 3 rows of a box, you can guaranteed know where to place the number in that box. If you've got 8 of the 9 squares in a box/column/row you can figure out the last one by seeing which is missing. If you've got 7 in a box/row/column, you can generally figure out which goes where because one hole will not be able to hold one of the missing ones.

E.G

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 9
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 8
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 7
6 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
2 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 2
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 4
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 5

You know the two missing ones in the column on the right are 3 and 6. 3 coudl go in either, but 6 has to be in the bottom one because of the 6 in the row with the top.
]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/950.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/950.page GMT hard: 3:44, nowdays always well below 6min
extreme: 3:47 got lucky on this 1]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/1161.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/1161.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/1612.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/1612.page GMT Easy: 0:43
Medium: 1:45
Hard: 2:41
Extreme: 3:05]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3179.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3179.page GMT I am a casual player been playing maybe 5 years on and off, my best times are
Easy 00:41
Medium 00:57
Hard 00:59
Extreme 1:16

If I try, I can make the top 50 displayed times on every level every day, I've never seen a time there that made me think someone is cheating.
I primarily play extreme and (almost) always get under 3:00 and honestly if you played using the same logic I do I don't see how you could take more than 5:00. Maybe some of you just don't know the best strategy to play?

Protip: filling in all pencil marks and then solving is not the fastest or the best]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3220.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3220.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3522.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3522.page GMT I guess that's just a basic Genina cross-check.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3579.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3579.page GMT
Cheating says a lot about one's character and cheating on something as insignificant as a game indicates a big flaw in one's character. Of course my words will have no affect on those who choose to cheat - why would they since they have no conscious - I felt it needed to be said.[/quote]

Best times:
easy: 00:39
medium: 00:43
hard: 01:04
extreme: 01:33

the strategy that improved my times significantly:

1) digit entry style: buttons; entry mode: digit first; auto pencil: erase; highlight: both - doesn't actually help you solving the puzzle, but reduces tap count by a lot.
2) solve the digits with the most prefilled cells first: the more prefilled cells of a digit there are, the more likely it is to find the difinitive solution for the missing ones. The more cells are filled in total, the more likely it is to find definitive solutions for the digits with less prefilled cells. if there's just one prefilled solution for digit 7, ignore the digit completely until you have solved the rest of the puzzle. this always works on easy and medium, most of the times on hard and sometimes even on extreme.
3) if you're typing in solutions for digit 5 that overwrite pencil marks for digit 3 and 4 leaving you with definitive solutions for digit 3 and 4, remember to fill them in immediately after having solved digit 5.
4) don't switch to pencil marks and back a lot: if pencil marks lead to a definitive solution in other boxes, just type the definitve solution in without wasting your time on pencil marks. this often leads you back to the initial cells and allows you to type more definitve solutions in right away and therefore reduces tap count. easy puzzles can mostly be solved without pencil marks. Once you're comfortable with that you can start leaving more and more pencil marks out on medium/hard/extreme.

5) work out your own strategy before accusing other people of cheating, you "big flaw in one's character" guy! if you use this strategy to get quicker, i'm really happy about having spoiled the challenge of finding your own.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3850.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3850.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3859.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/3859.page GMT
Cheating says a lot about one's character and cheating on something as insignificant as a game indicates a big flaw in one's character. Of course my words will have no affect on those who choose to cheat - why would they since they have no conscious - I felt it needed to be said.[/quote]]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/5191.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/5191.page GMT Easy - :54
Medium - 1:23
Hard - 1:46
Extreme - 2:23
Top 10 in each category are maybe 10%-20% slower.
The majority of the time taken per puzzle is just in filling in the squares, not in computing the solution, since I only use my cell phone to play, and it is common to hit the wrong number on the first try where I have to erase then refill with the correct number. Every once in a while a Med or a Hard could take 5 min, but then I will break 3 min on back to back extremes, so for my style of solving the levels are maybe a little imbalanced and skew easier than other sudoku sites. I recognize there are many people better than me at this game, so I figured the leader boards had a handful of cheats but were for the most part legitimate. If I spend a few hours on a Sunday doing puzzles I improve, so if I were to focus more on it and use a faster entry method or bigger device maybe I could improve by 20% or so, but I don't care as much about the times as I do about the challenge and the fun, where every puzzle is different but the same... So I am going to keep playing on my phone and not worrying about the Leader boards and who's cheating or not cheating.]]> http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/5702.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/5702.page GMT http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/5828.page http://www.genina.com/posts/preList/128/5828.page GMT